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	<title>Comments on: Sneak Peek: @font-face in Firefox 3.1</title>
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		<title>By: ulrik</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>ulrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; This is no test for the unicode-range feature. The example 
&gt; might also work without it. 

It uses the Ampersand font for the whole of h1, yet only the ampersand is rendered  dramatically; I think that was what was intended to show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; This is no test for the unicode-range feature. The example<br />
&gt; might also work without it. </p>
<p>It uses the Ampersand font for the whole of h1, yet only the ampersand is rendered  dramatically; I think that was what was intended to show.</p>
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		<title>By: ralfherrmann</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>ralfherrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;unicode-range for Firefox 3.5 works when I tested it via this demo site: http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is no test for the unicode-range feature. The example might also work without it. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, the same-origin rule works for absolute URLs as long as the domain.tld are the same&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Can&#039;t cofirm that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>unicode-range for Firefox 3.5 works when I tested it via this demo site: <a href="http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/'>http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/</a></p></blockquote>
<p>This is no test for the unicode-range feature. The example might also work without it. </p>
<blockquote><p>Also, the same-origin rule works for absolute URLs as long as the domain.tld are the same</p></blockquote>
<p>Can&#8217;t cofirm that.</p>
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		<title>By: JC John Sese Cuneta</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>JC John Sese Cuneta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unicode-range for Firefox 3.5 works when I tested it via this demo site: http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/

Also, the same-origin rule works for absolute URLs as long as the domain.tld are the same ^_^  It&#039;s currently how my sites are setup (for testing purposes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unicode-range for Firefox 3.5 works when I tested it via this demo site: <a href="http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/'>http://opentype.info/webfont-demo/ampersand/</a></p>
<p>Also, the same-origin rule works for absolute URLs as long as the domain.tld are the same ^_^  It&#8217;s currently how my sites are setup (for testing purposes).</p>
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		<title>By: John Daggett</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>John Daggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple notes.  The unicode-range descriptor won&#039;t be supported in 3.1, it&#039;ll be supported post-3.1.  Support for access control headers will be included in nightlies starting tomorrow and in the beta 2 build.  It&#039;s simple to add support for it on your web server, the A List Apart article on fonts already works this way.  Support for .otf fonts on Windows is still broken but that will get fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple notes.  The unicode-range descriptor won&#8217;t be supported in 3.1, it&#8217;ll be supported post-3.1.  Support for access control headers will be included in nightlies starting tomorrow and in the beta 2 build.  It&#8217;s simple to add support for it on your web server, the A List Apart article on fonts already works this way.  Support for .otf fonts on Windows is still broken but that will get fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: ralfherrmann</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>ralfherrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It doesn’t yet work in FIreFox that I can figure out&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like I said in the article: You need to use relative links to the fonts, not absolute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It doesn’t yet work in FIreFox that I can figure out</p></blockquote>
<p>Like I said in the article: You need to use relative links to the fonts, not absolute.</p>
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		<title>By: elliottcable</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>elliottcable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t yet work in FIreFox that I can figure out. I&#039;ve written up a test page, it works fine in WebKit nightlies, but not FireFox nightlies:

http://tr.im/emj?elliottcable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t yet work in FIreFox that I can figure out. I&#8217;ve written up a test page, it works fine in WebKit nightlies, but not FireFox nightlies:</p>
<p><a href="http://tr.im/emj?elliottcable" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://tr.im/emj?elliottcable'>http://tr.im/emj?elliottcable</a></p>
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		<title>By: ralfherrmann</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>ralfherrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is easy enough to create separate CSS font-family descriptors for separate alphabets and tag the text accordingly whenever an alphabet changes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, but the beauty of the unicode-range descriptor is, that it works automatically. Not everyone who creates web content, knows how to set languages tags. (e.g. millions of webloggers)

BTW: This sounds like a nice project for FontLab: a Webfont converter. The tool would take an OTF/TTF file and would output an EOT file (with URL binding), a splitted OTF/TTF (based on the supported Unicode ranges in the fonts) and a CSS file to combine all these files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is easy enough to create separate CSS font-family descriptors for separate alphabets and tag the text accordingly whenever an alphabet changes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, but the beauty of the unicode-range descriptor is, that it works automatically. Not everyone who creates web content, knows how to set languages tags. (e.g. millions of webloggers)</p>
<p>BTW: This sounds like a nice project for FontLab: a Webfont converter. The tool would take an OTF/TTF file and would output an EOT file (with URL binding), a splitted OTF/TTF (based on the supported Unicode ranges in the fonts) and a CSS file to combine all these files.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Twardoch</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Twardoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IE7 supports the @font-face mechanism just the same way IE4, IE5 and IE6 did, i.e. only for the EOT font format, while Safari and Firefox support the mechanism for the TTF and OTF formats, but not for EOT. 

I think efficient font subsetting is important, but it does not require the unicode-range descriptor. It is easy enough to create separate CSS font-family descriptors for separate alphabets and tag the text accordingly whenever an alphabet changes. 

It is not overly elegant but sometimes is a good idea anyway — for example if one wishes to use a different typeface or different typographic parameters for the portions of the text set in a different alphabet, or even just mark up a different XML &quot;lang&quot; attribute (for purposes of spelling and hyphenation control). 

Since an alphabet switch constitutes directionality change (when mixing LTR and RTL writing systems) and usually also an OpenType run break, there are hardly any downsides for marking up a character set change using XML/HTML. 

Of course one would not necessarily want to create the subsets based on the ancient codepages but on some more intelligent small character sets. 

Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IE7 supports the @font-face mechanism just the same way IE4, IE5 and IE6 did, i.e. only for the EOT font format, while Safari and Firefox support the mechanism for the TTF and OTF formats, but not for EOT. </p>
<p>I think efficient font subsetting is important, but it does not require the unicode-range descriptor. It is easy enough to create separate CSS font-family descriptors for separate alphabets and tag the text accordingly whenever an alphabet changes. </p>
<p>It is not overly elegant but sometimes is a good idea anyway — for example if one wishes to use a different typeface or different typographic parameters for the portions of the text set in a different alphabet, or even just mark up a different XML &#8220;lang&#8221; attribute (for purposes of spelling and hyphenation control). </p>
<p>Since an alphabet switch constitutes directionality change (when mixing LTR and RTL writing systems) and usually also an OpenType run break, there are hardly any downsides for marking up a character set change using XML/HTML. </p>
<p>Of course one would not necessarily want to create the subsets based on the ancient codepages but on some more intelligent small character sets. </p>
<p>Adam</p>
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		<title>By: ralfherrmann</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>ralfherrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IE screenshot is done using a local font, but I could have converted the font to EOT to use it as a webfont. IE supports @font-face for many years (but for Embedded OpenType only).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IE screenshot is done using a local font, but I could have converted the font to EOT to use it as a webfont. IE supports @font-face for many years (but for Embedded OpenType only).</p>
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		<title>By: Schoschie</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2008/10/25/sneak-peek-font-face-in-firefox-31/comment-page-1/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Schoschie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supported in Safari, latest Firefox *and* IE7?
That&#039;s exciting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supported in Safari, latest Firefox *and* IE7?<br />
That&#8217;s exciting!</p>
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