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	<title>Kommentare zu: Why webfont services are the future of fonts on the web</title>
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		<title>Von: BrightBold</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2009/07/29/why-webfont-services-are-the-future-of-fonts-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>BrightBold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John Daggett - Thanks, that is a big improvement in Safari. It&#039;s still not italic, but other than that looks like Ralf&#039;s screenshot.

@Richard Fink - Just the beginning indeed. A lot of complexities here. The more I read the more I realize how incredibly complicated this is; I&#039;m grateful there are lots of very smart &amp; knowledgeable people working on it. 

- Kelley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John Daggett &#8211; Thanks, that is a big improvement in Safari. It&#8217;s still not italic, but other than that looks like Ralf&#8217;s screenshot.</p>
<p>@Richard Fink &#8211; Just the beginning indeed. A lot of complexities here. The more I read the more I realize how incredibly complicated this is; I&#8217;m grateful there are lots of very smart &amp; knowledgeable people working on it. </p>
<p>- Kelley</p>
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		<title>Von: Richard Fink</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2009/07/29/why-webfont-services-are-the-future-of-fonts-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, rasterizers...  John Daggett wrote:
&quot;For comparison, in Safari change the font smoothing preference from the default “Windows Standard” to see what it should really look like!! That renders using the Windows port of the Mac OS X font rasterizer rather than the Windows default rasterizer.&quot;

One of the things web fonts is going to highlight for all of us is just how deeply cross-platform rendering differences go. The &quot;web safe&quot; fonts have largely shielded us from these things, so far.
And then there&#039;s the question of how display technology fits into all of this?
This is the road we have to travel down now. Web Fonts are just a part of the readability mix. It&#039;s going to take awhile to sort this stuff out.
It&#039;s just the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, rasterizers&#8230;  John Daggett wrote:<br />
&#8220;For comparison, in Safari change the font smoothing preference from the default “Windows Standard” to see what it should really look like!! That renders using the Windows port of the Mac OS X font rasterizer rather than the Windows default rasterizer.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the things web fonts is going to highlight for all of us is just how deeply cross-platform rendering differences go. The &#8220;web safe&#8221; fonts have largely shielded us from these things, so far.<br />
And then there&#8217;s the question of how display technology fits into all of this?<br />
This is the road we have to travel down now. Web Fonts are just a part of the readability mix. It&#8217;s going to take awhile to sort this stuff out.<br />
It&#8217;s just the beginning.</p>
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		<title>Von: John Daggett</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2009/07/29/why-webfont-services-are-the-future-of-fonts-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>John Daggett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BrightBold

Looks like a font loading bug in Firefox.  I&#039;ve logged this and will take a look at it as soon as I get a chance.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507584

As for the thinness of the face on Windows, that&#039;s unfortunately how OpenType PS fonts render on Windows.  They render with grayscale anti-aliasing, rather than subpixel antialiasing and that&#039;s why it looks thin.  I&#039;ve been pestering the Microsoft folks about this and trying to get Adobe to do the same.  For comparison, in Safari change the font smoothing preference from the default &quot;Windows Standard&quot; to see what it should really look like!!  That renders using the Windows port of the Mac OS X font rasterizer rather than the Windows default rasterizer.

John Daggett
Mozilla Japan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BrightBold</p>
<p>Looks like a font loading bug in Firefox.  I&#8217;ve logged this and will take a look at it as soon as I get a chance.</p>
<p><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507584" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507584'>https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507584</a></p>
<p>As for the thinness of the face on Windows, that&#8217;s unfortunately how OpenType PS fonts render on Windows.  They render with grayscale anti-aliasing, rather than subpixel antialiasing and that&#8217;s why it looks thin.  I&#8217;ve been pestering the Microsoft folks about this and trying to get Adobe to do the same.  For comparison, in Safari change the font smoothing preference from the default &#8220;Windows Standard&#8221; to see what it should really look like!!  That renders using the Windows port of the Mac OS X font rasterizer rather than the Windows default rasterizer.</p>
<p>John Daggett<br />
Mozilla Japan</p>
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		<title>Von: Richard Fink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Fink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralf,

Thanks for the mention. Although I don&#039;t agree with you that the new EOT lite is a &quot;bad&quot; compromise. It&#039;s garnered a lot of support.
Frankly, I find the whole Web Fonts situation so muddled, all I can say for sure is that font services are certainly a part of the future. As will be experimentation and confusion.
Developments over the next couple of months will tell us a lot.
Cheers,

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralf,</p>
<p>Thanks for the mention. Although I don&#8217;t agree with you that the new EOT lite is a &#8220;bad&#8221; compromise. It&#8217;s garnered a lot of support.<br />
Frankly, I find the whole Web Fonts situation so muddled, all I can say for sure is that font services are certainly a part of the future. As will be experimentation and confusion.<br />
Developments over the next couple of months will tell us a lot.<br />
Cheers,</p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>Von: BrightBold</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrightBold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - I have already recommended it to people looking for a good summary of the current state of web type.

However I&#039;m not seeing the font as you intended either. In FF 3.5.1/Win (with ClearType enabled) I appear to be seeing p.interview-answer in Graublau Web Regular - definitely not italic. Looks  OK but a little thin to be highly legible. In Safari 4.0.2/Win I get an ugly machine-imitation bold. 

Yikes - I&#039;d better triple-check the sites I&#039;m working on with @font-face! Webfont services can&#039;t get here fast enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article &#8211; I have already recommended it to people looking for a good summary of the current state of web type.</p>
<p>However I&#8217;m not seeing the font as you intended either. In FF 3.5.1/Win (with ClearType enabled) I appear to be seeing p.interview-answer in Graublau Web Regular &#8211; definitely not italic. Looks  OK but a little thin to be highly legible. In Safari 4.0.2/Win I get an ugly machine-imitation bold. </p>
<p>Yikes &#8211; I&#8217;d better triple-check the sites I&#8217;m working on with @font-face! Webfont services can&#8217;t get here fast enough.</p>
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		<title>Von: ralfherrmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralfherrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Depends, you can also see it as usage. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The usage is subject to the terms of the End User License Agreement. Uploading commercial software to a public server is not allowed in any such license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Depends, you can also see it as usage. </p></blockquote>
<p>The usage is subject to the terms of the End User License Agreement. Uploading commercial software to a public server is not allowed in any such license.</p>
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		<title>Von: Tor Løvskogen Bollingmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tor Løvskogen Bollingmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends, you can also see it as usage. It&#039;s not redistribution as in selling the font or sharing it for the purpose of giving it away for free. Just as posting an image on the web, it too can be stolen - but it&#039;s main purpose is for people to look at, not redistribute it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends, you can also see it as usage. It&#8217;s not redistribution as in selling the font or sharing it for the purpose of giving it away for free. Just as posting an image on the web, it too can be stolen &#8211; but it&#8217;s main purpose is for people to look at, not redistribute it.</p>
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		<title>Von: make-up artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>make-up artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baxter, same here!?.. strange</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baxter, same here!?.. strange</p>
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		<title>Von: ralfherrmann</title>
		<link>http://opentype.info/blog/2009/07/29/why-webfont-services-are-the-future-of-fonts-on-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>ralfherrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Btw. does the EULA of regular typefaces cover usage on websites via font-face? If not, we’d be free to use the raw files.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The license agreements always prohibit redristribution – and this is what you do, when you upload a font to a web server to be used with @font-face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Btw. does the EULA of regular typefaces cover usage on websites via font-face? If not, we’d be free to use the raw files.</p></blockquote>
<p>The license agreements always prohibit redristribution – and this is what you do, when you upload a font to a web server to be used with @font-face.</p>
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		<title>Von: baxter</title>
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		<dc:creator>baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m running Firefox 3.5.1 and I don&#039;t see that font. Custom fonts elsewhere on this page seem to be working though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m running Firefox 3.5.1 and I don&#8217;t see that font. Custom fonts elsewhere on this page seem to be working though.</p>
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